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PC Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Unread postby icycalm » 01 Jun 2022 23:10

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This isn't a tactics game. It's a full CRPG by Owlcat, their next game after Wrath of the Righteous. Read this thread for my earlier comments and speculation on Owlcat's future:

Owlcat's next Pathfinder game
https://culture.vg/forum/topic?t=7549

So they DID do sci-fi, as I had imagined they might, just not Starfinder. It makes sense financially I suppose since 40K has way more name recognition than Starfinder, even if it's way inferior. It's way older after all, for one thing (Starfinder only launched in mid-2017).

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This will apparently be the FIRST CRPG in the 40K universe. It makes sense that there haven't been any others, since 40K is a wargame not an RPG. Which means... that the system will be concocted hastily by some programmer at Owlcat, which means it will suck, guaranteed, and certainly compared to Starfinder lol. Expect the adventure to suck too since unlike the Pathfinder games they won't be adapting a published adventure or campaign, since there aren't any, and it'll again be some halfwit programmer who'll hastily concoct a halfassed adventure on his own (compared to the dozens of people that work on each Paizo campaign). Business as usual in other words for the genre, exactly what Larian and others have been doing for decades, with only a handful of exceptions.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/ ... 9748822802

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I speculate that the 40K license was way cheaper than Starfinder, since every "indie" moron and his retarded kitten can get a 40K license nowadays. Much less work too than adapting the super-detailed Paizo system and campaigns. And the revenue will definitely be way higher than if they'd gone with the, even less known than Pathfinder, Starfinder system.

Still it'll be something to play if you're starved for CRPGs I suppose. Probably better than the Wasteland games (though at least the second of those had co-op...)

And all hope isn't lost about another Pathfinder adaptation, since Owlcat now says they have grown their studio to be able to work on multiple projects simultaneously.

Owlcat Games - What’s Next?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/118437 ... 7682239183

Owlcat Games wrote:Thanks to our studio’s growth in recent years, we are now capable of working on multiple projects at the same time, and the development of the new game won’t affect our plans for Pathfinder.


For now, they're just pumping out DLCs for WotR, but they could well switch to a new campaign once those are done. And Paizo recently saying that Owlcat ISN'T working on a Starfinder game [ > ] I would take as a sign that they may be working on a Pathfinder game, since if they weren't working on Paizo stuff at all, Paizo probably wouldn't have ventured any news on wtf Owlcat is doing. Just speculation on my part, of course, but it sounds plausible to me.

It's a huge disappointment any way you cut it, we could be getting Skull & Shackles or Horizons of the Vast now instead of this stupid shit (Iron Gods would be even better as I mention in my earlier-linked thread since it's the campaign that ties together Pathfinder and Starfinder, an utterly unique proposition that covers all angles and should attract an outsize playerbase for the genre), but I don't care either way since I wouldn't play even them if they were making them lol. I am only reporting on this stuff out of years-long habit, and will probably altogether stop once my Battlegrounds is in full swing. Maybe someone else who actually plays this stuff will pick up the slack at some point. Otherwise Insomnia will probably just stop covering them lol. Or who knows, maybe the habit will be too strong to kick and I'll be posting about all these games I won't be playing all the way to my grave lol. We'll see.

Official site: https://roguetrader.owlcat.games

The CG seen in the trailer at the bottom is a bit cheap and ill-fitting to the in-game art direction, kind of like how much of WotR's was, but the in-game art looks great, some of it maybe even better than in the Pathfinder games.

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Announcement Teaser Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4VUmndj9rw

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No Steam page yet but you can already preorder on the official site linked above, and that will give you Early Access fairly soon apparently: https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/preorder/en/faq

Owlcat Games wrote:Developer’s Digital Pack owners will have access to the earliest alpha version of the game in 2022. Owners of the Core, Premium, and Ultimate packs will have access to the beta version of the game next year.
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Re: PC Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Unread postby icycalm » 01 Jun 2022 23:34

"Rogue Trader". He's a trader who's a rogue. Wow.

Instead of "Attack of the Swarm", "Dead Suns", "The Devastation Ark", "Fly Free or Die", etc. etc.

Can you see the difference between the professional authors and adventure designers, and the halfwit programmer? Even the very NAME of the campaigns tells the whole story. ZERO imagination for the halfwit programmer.

Look at them all here: https://paizo.com/store/starfinder/adve ... enturePath
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Re: PC Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Unread postby icycalm » 01 Jun 2022 23:37

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This is what we lost.

I don't give a shit either way since I am playing these anyway, I am just sayin'. Trying to teach game design theory here. Don't reinvent the wheel, especially if you're a halfwit.
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Re: PC Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Unread postby icycalm » 02 Jun 2022 00:39

Since this is due for full release in 2023, even if the other team is working on a new Pathfinder game right now, it won't be ready before the end of 2023, and even if it were they wouldn't want to release two CRPGs so close to each other. It will be 2024 minimum by the time we get another Pathfinder game. Probably late 2024 too.

They done fucked up real good. They'll make money, but lots of customers will be dissatisfied, and some momentum will be lost. People will be able to play as many PF2 campaigns as they want at 4K on Foundry in the meantime. I hope some of them learn about this and go this route.
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Re: PC Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Unread postby icycalm » 30 Oct 2022 22:11

Main Theme | Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5R0oN00ODE

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Even the music is generic.

Because Warhammer as a game, and even more as a universe, is so generic, it seems that everything derived from it is doomed to be generic.

Has there EVER been a genuinely GOOD Warhammer videogame?

I haven't heard of such a thing. I am even thinking of lowering my 4/5 TW:WH3 review (contained in my essay Not Art: Shogun: Total War (2000)) to 3/5 because I haven't touched the game since my initial session and wouldn't dream of doing so at this point.
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