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by Molloy » 03 Mar 2008 17:58
by NFG » 03 Mar 2008 23:51
by AlphaONE » 04 Mar 2008 02:18
by AlphaONE » 04 Mar 2008 02:27
by icycalm » 04 Mar 2008 02:34
AlphaOne wrote:WAM, BAM, THANK YOU MA'AM!!!
by Flying Omelette » 04 Mar 2008 12:31
by icycalm » 04 Mar 2008 12:45
by JoshF » 04 Mar 2008 15:57
by icycalm » 04 Mar 2008 16:35
by Molloy » 04 Mar 2008 17:08
by icycalm » 04 Mar 2008 17:36
Molloy wrote:Most book reviews don't have ratings.
Molloy wrote:You said yourself Icy that you often like to wait a month and skim through competitive players forum posts to get a true impression of how good a beat em up is.
Molloy wrote:You could republish the post on this website and throw a number on the end, but it's not really adding that much to the original post
Molloy wrote:other than hopefully ensuring more people see it.
Molloy wrote:In fact, I think alot of the poorer reviewers writing would be massively improved by not being able to fall back on ratings.
Molloy wrote:If I was going to start a games review site i'd either do no ratings, or a rotten tomatoes style "hit" or "miss" system, just for the sake of change.
by Flying Omelette » 04 Mar 2008 19:37
EGM (and 1up.com) has changed to an A to F format for reviews because there's no question that a C is average compared to a 5/10.
I agree. But this doesn't apply to me, Josh or fo, because we are not bad reviewers.
by raphael » 05 Mar 2008 01:03
Molloy wrote:Just as a follow on from Icycalms "value for money" article I thought I might throw in another really widespread point that always gets on my tits.
That is finishing any review with "it's not very good and really only suitable for kids."
What the hell is that about? Kids like good games not bad games. They've got more time on their hands and less money so you'll generally find they put a hell of alot more thought into what games they want to play than the typical adult.
by icycalm » 05 Mar 2008 02:36
raphael wrote:Well anyway, children's tastes may be biased sometimes
by raphael » 05 Mar 2008 10:53
icycalm wrote:raphael wrote:Well anyway, children's tastes may be biased sometimes
Tastes are always biased. Because taste=bias.
by icycalm » 05 Mar 2008 14:56
by Fei_Yen_Kn » 06 Mar 2008 03:41
by GnaM » 06 Mar 2008 07:02
by Topdrunkee » 06 Mar 2008 09:20
AlphaONE wrote:"Lukus LaDwonn Allen (aka Dark Geese) is among the top ten KOF XI players in the West, and reigning North American champion in several other fighters, including Samurai Spirits: Tenkaichi Kenkakuden, Ninja Master's and Waku Waku 7."
WAM, BAM, THANK YOU MA'AM!!!
Fine I am among the top ten RN's in the WEST!!
I am also one of the top ten French toast cook's on the planet.
All in all though, the biggest problem with game reviews today is that the reviewers have shitty opinions, and don't even seem to actually give their true opinions anyway because they're so busy catering to industry politics. How else could titles like Halo 3, COD4 and Mario Galaxy receive 9's and 10's with GOTY nominations across the board? We're still basically in Gamepro Land where the write spends most of the review paraphrasing the story out of the front of the manual, yammering about "great graphics" and "tight controls", and if you're lucky, maybe slips some weak mention about the campaign being "a bit too short" or the challenge level being "a bit too easy".
by icycalm » 06 Mar 2008 14:59
GnaM wrote:I suppose there's some use for ratings simply as an index tool, but there are ways around that. For example, reviews could be listed either as "staff recommendations" or "top picks of the month".
by Molloy » 06 Mar 2008 15:23
by icycalm » 06 Mar 2008 15:30
Molloy wrote:Having some sort of scoring isn't going to make 5,000 reviews more useful though.
Molloy wrote:They're not going to all be reviewed by the same person
Molloy wrote:Plus, a games worth can shift over time depending on what other games have been released in the interim
Molloy wrote:or simply according to fashion.
Molloy wrote:A UK Magazine called PC Zone used to try and do a Top 10 for each genre every month and that sort of worked.
Molloy wrote:And they openly admitted to having gotten scores rather wrong in the past.