[360] [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw

[icycalm]

Suda finally figured out which are the real consoles this generation, and decided to make a game for them.

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/1665445

'nough said?

I've got news for you Suda-boy: it's been done.

[El Chaos]

Official website: http://www.lollipopchainsaw.com/

Pretty much empty for now.

[icycalm]

How is it empty dude? It links you to all the national sites, and the Japanese one, which I checked, has a goddamn trailer on it:

http://lolli.jp/

[El Chaos]

Yeah, though for some reason I was expecting it to have more contents.

By the way, the Japanese and American sites feature slightly different trailers. Seems like the blood gushes will be censored in the Japanese versions, as with No More Heroes.

EDIT: Here's an interview with the game's producer at WB Games and none other than Akira Yamaoka as chief creative officer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnuWnx0t21E

And a video preview with more footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDKhmJAGoU0

[icycalm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85BQq_sLAI

icycalm review just in: half an hour playtime, and two stars at best. (I say at best, because it looks worse than No More Heroes, and that got two stars from me.)

What's funny is that Chaos and co. pour their bile on to DmC and Ninja Gaiden 3, which even if they utterly suck (which they of course won't) will still be about a billion times better than this, and yet you hardly ever see them say much of anything about it. It's like, yeah, let's keep refreshing Sankaku Complex and other weaboo sites ten times a day in hopes of catching news on trash like this, and then they pour all their bile on, at the very least, sure-fire decent games. Which proves that what's at the bottom of this behavior cannot be anything other than posing. It's either that or they are clinically retarded or something.

[icycalm]

This video makes the game look a whole lot better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E8Kygj0OAs

And I'd take listening to that chick in the cinematics over the NMH moron any day.

Still far from convinced the game will be worth playing, of course.

[Dolt]

http://aztez.com/blog/2012/07/14/combat ... -chainsaw/

Combat Analysis: Lollipop Chainsaw

The best way to describe the game Lollipop Chainsaw is this; Bayonetta's awkward, underdeveloped, squeaky voiced, ambitious little sister. Personally, this isn't very surprising as it's a Suda 51 game. In my opinion, he makes interesting things, not fun things, and the game experience is very much a reflection of this.



Pros:

• The game has decent animation. It's not great, but it's decent. There's one problem with them, and it's in the cons.
• There are solid special effects. The rainbow and glittery stuff is a bit over the top, but interesting, and the normal effects (swishes, dust, whooshes, clouds, etc.) are all good.
• There IS a combat rhythm and it's plenty engaging. Unfortunately, I had to dig it out of a very unusual set of fundamental mechanics. More on that in the cons.
• The defense mechanic is solid, but essentially a less interesting version of Bayonetta's; at (almost) any point, the player can use it and it makes the character invincible for a moment. But it simply isn't as fun and attractive as Bayonetta's. However, the dodge can link into distinct attacks, which is unnecessary but fun. One of those attacks is a missile dropkick, and whiffing this made me laugh because the animation is so charming.

Cons:

• It's frustrating when you can easily tell what's motion captured and what's not. The non motion captured animations have very extreme curves, resulting in a very POPPY animation style. Now this isn't a problem in itself (Aztez's animations are all look like this) but again, some of them look like this and some of them don't and it's distracting.
• Of COURSE you have to unlock new mechanics and combos. WHY THE FUCK NOT?
• The (apparently) primary mechanic is this quick style of attack called the pom-pom bash. The thing that sticks out to me about the entire game experience is how useless these attacks are. The game sells you the idea that you need to pom pom bash enemies until they're dizzy, and then use the stronger chainsaw attacks (on a different button) to finish them off. Now I'd be totally cool with this except that not only do the pom pom attacks hit one enemy at a time, but it takes forever to get even the lowest level enemies into a dizzy state. The powerful chainsaw attacks are much slower, but they kill entire groups much quicker regardless. So even though the game is giving me explicit guidance, the guidance is suboptimal. I didn't end up touching the pom-pom attacks at all once I was warmed up, especially since you can still cancel any of the powerful chainsaw attacks with a dodge! This is very confusing and without further understanding, is wasted button real estate. These attacks should be more meaningful or not there at all.
• FURTHERMORE, the pom-pom attacks, when not mixed with other attacks, are a sequence of 4 hits. However, the attack animations for attacks 2 through 4 are randomized! What the fuck is this?! Functionally they appear to be similar enough to each other that it doesn't make a huge difference, but it makes me feel out of control because I'm not ever seeing what I expect to see when I use those attacks.
• And not to keep railing on these ridiculous pom-pom attacks, but the designers plugged in the strangest shit I've ever see in a beat 'em up; at the end of pom-pom attacks 2 through 4, the character automatically enters a non-functional taunting animation. This could seriously be fun and charming if it wasn't for the fact that they cannot be canceled with other attacks! If you wait too long before pushing the next pom-pom attack button, you are stuck in this taunt animation. It CAN be cancelled with movement input, though! I'm so baffled by this decision that it just makes me confused laugh whenever I think about it. But then there's THIS doozy...
• The first pom-pom attack is fired on the negative edge of the button press. But only the first attack! This means that the attack doesn't fire when you push the button, it fires when you let it go. I'm as confused as you are! When I was being baffled by this upon discovery, I realized that a negative edge combat system could be really interesting and afford some distinct advantages, but then I realized it's only that one attack!
• Lollipop Chainsaw is another game guilty of arbitrary designer-born combos that aren't particularly intuitive. Why haven't all beat 'em ups evolved to a super flexible mash flow yet?
• There is an entire button devoted to powerful chainsaw attacks that swing low. The game tells you that these are for crawling zombies, except the player rarely encounters those. It can still hit non-crawling enemies, but the button (out of the box) only yields an unremarkable two hit combo. So there's no reason to ever touch this button, which is another classic case of wasted button real estate...
• Until you've unlocked this one combo that comes out fast and shreds everything. It's ridiculous. Now, instinctively, it's all I use when I'm trying to survive instead of explore.
• There is a charge system that builds up over time. When full, you hit the right trigger and it puts the character in a beefed up power mode. The game instructs you to use this on elite enemies, except when you do that, it appears to kill them instantly. So you get this huge reward for NO effort and it's very weird and unsatisfying.

In summation, there is a very strange disconnect between what the game expects of you and what you end up doing. It's like someone on the design team put down these vague goals and then completely different people that don't really understand combat tried to build mechanics that met those goals. It really is incredibly awkward in this way; I don't usually spend that much time wondering why certain design decisions were made but that's just a part of the Lollipop Chainsaw experience. Haha! The game is by no means bad (as a game experience, it's just another generic beat 'em up construct with the same old on-rails structure), but the combat is just so bizzare. Depending on how passionate you are about really understanding the combat experience you've got in your hands, it might be very difficult for you to enjoy it. ;)