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by Macaw » 15 Jul 2007 05:39
by Tain » 15 Jul 2007 05:52
by icycalm » 15 Jul 2007 10:55
Macaw wrote:Another note, what is your opinion of a game like Shadow Over Mystara, that takes about one and a half to two hours to complete? I'm sure within a month of release many Japanese players were already able to do this, and you can imagine 5 separate people of this skill playing in a single day would take about 10 hours, making almost no money for the operator.
by MAXCHAIN » 15 Jul 2007 16:55
Whats completely ridiculous is sometimes, and I know from personal experience, people will credit feed an arcade game on an emulator, all the while saying 'this game is totally awesome!' and such, yet once they've reached the end they will never touch the game again
by filterpunk » 17 Jul 2007 00:39
icycalm wrote:I am glad you enjoyed the article, guys. Strange as it may seem, half the people who read it end up hating it, and me.
For laughs:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=15097
by el_clown » 17 Jul 2007 02:31
by Perfect Stranger » 17 Jul 2007 17:41
by icycalm » 17 Jul 2007 20:46
filterpunk wrote:I think of the issue as a little more grey than the fairly black-and-white perspective of your article.
filterpunk wrote:As far as I'm aware, this site is largely focused on writing and talking about particular games/types of games that interest <i>you</i>.
filterpunk wrote:Are people so dense that you need to preface every sentence with, "I think" or "In my opinion," just to avoid confusion?
el_clown wrote:Hey! I've just registered in this forum to tell you that I love this article, even though I don't completly agree (opinions are like noses).
Perfect Stranger wrote:Credit-feeding? More like paying tribute to the king.
by filterpunk » 20 Jul 2007 12:27
icycalm wrote:If this subject interests you, get into specifics, otherwise spare me the blanket statements (except if they are to agree with me :). I'll be sure to reply at length to each and every point you bring up. This is, after all, what this thread is for.
games released in the arcades are of a much higher quality, on average, than games released for the home console market.
All games interest me. The reason I sometimes focus on certain types of games more than others is explained here
As for the rest of your post... I'll just say two things. One, that you are making the same mistake as many of the Shmups guys, which was to misread this article as an attack against console or computer games. So you are basically trying to defend something that no one here has attacked. And two, let me tell you that cinematics really only belong in the cinema. I am not going to explain this second statement right now... Perhaps another day, in another article.
by MAXCHAIN » 21 Jul 2007 13:14
@MAXCHAIN: You had me confused for a second. Around these parts, "IC" stands for insert credit -- the website. You can call me icy if you want. Just clearing that up!
Whether you intended it this way or not, it came across as you saying, "arcade games are higher quality because of one-crediting and that breeds a desire to improve and challenge yourself."
As for cinematics, I'm about 95% certain we'll disagree on that, but I'm interested to read what you'll have to say about them. :)
by filterpunk » 21 Jul 2007 20:01
MAXCHAIN wrote:I think you're looking too deeply into this facet of the article. He's not saying that you should be playing one or the other, he's just saying how you should be playing arcade games, specifically.
by Molloy » 22 Jul 2007 19:02
by MAXCHAIN » 23 Jul 2007 18:41
That's the single thing I really miss about arcades. The social aspect.
by PetitPrince » 25 Jul 2007 02:14
by icycalm » 25 Jul 2007 14:15
by icycalm » 25 Jul 2007 14:23
filterpunk wrote:From the article:games released in the arcades are of a much higher quality, on average, than games released for the home console market.
This is likely true, but it also strikes me as reaching a little bit...or at least a little too narrow in it's focus.
by filterpunk » 25 Jul 2007 16:03
icycalm wrote:If it's true, how can it be reaching? As for being narrow in focus... well, most 100% true things are narrow in focus. The moment you start expanding your focus the more likely it is that you'll end up with a false statement.
by icycalm » 25 Jul 2007 23:05
filterpunk wrote:your response indicates to me that you think I failed to comprehend the article even in the slightest.
by alpha5099 » 27 Jul 2007 20:38
by icycalm » 27 Jul 2007 23:59
by alpha5099 » 28 Jul 2007 05:40
by icycalm » 30 Jul 2007 01:12
by alpha5099 » 30 Jul 2007 02:51
by Macaw » 30 Jul 2007 07:43
alpha5099 wrote:Perhaps in Japan this one credit philosophy was so deeply ingrained that even something as simple as playing another game was frowned upon.