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Unread postby icycalm » 21 Aug 2018 11:36

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longdi wrote:Considering that the rtx2080ti is the almost full quadro gpu, with tensors, rt and tips cores, that is a beast. 700mm2 in size.

AMD doesn't seem to have engineered anything close to this, as far as leaks go. Doesn't bode well for next gen console gaming.

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Dontero wrote:I don't think AMD cares what Nvidia does at this point. They basically hold 90% of gaming market in their hands and whatever custom silicon they will came up with has possibility of really fucking hurting Nvidia in gaming sphere.

Nvidia really made a fucking huge mistake when they lost both major consoles to AMD.

Imagine for a second that AMD gets their own PsyhX and they dedicate part of silicon for it. Since they control both consoles it means 90% of developers in the world will make their games completely use it. Which in turn means that almost every PC game later will look like shit on Nvidia GPUs becausae they can't run it and some will not even be playable on Nvidia because developers choose to use physics as one of main designs behind game or various gameplay elements rely on it.

That is why i said Nvidia made a huge fucking mistake because company that has both best selling consoles will decide what games will use or not. Any custom silicon that manufacturer puts into consoles will be instantly used as a norm among game creators. If Nvidia would hold both consoles then we could have raytracing additions of RTX as standard for next gen.

We just don't know what AMD is cooking yet. IMHO it will be physics.
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Unread postby recoil » 05 Mar 2019 14:35 ... 38730.html

Matthew Connatser wrote:Nvidia and AMD GPU Oversupply to Last Until Summer - Report


While we've known for some time that the crypto bust left AMD and Nvidia with an excess amount of GPUs, the Jon Peddie Research group says this will continue on for almost half a year (up to this summer).

Jon Peddie Research is a third-party analyst firm that estimates GPU trends like market share between AMD, Nvidia, and Intel (which includes iGPUs, making Intel the largest graphics vendor). According to its findings, AMD and Nvidia overestimated cryptocurrency-derived demand throughout 2018. That led to such an excess supply of GPUs that the entire graphics market suffered a 2.65 percent decline in shipments going into Q4 last year. But this also includes Intel, which didn't suffer as much as AMD and Nvidia, whose sales declined 6.8 percent and 7.6 percent, respectively, from Q3 to Q4.

AMD's 2018 Q4 was still better than its 2017 Q4, and while the company predicts a poor Q1 for this year (likely due to excess GPU inventory), it seems AMD has weathered the crypto bust rather well. AMD predicts it will still grow overall in 2019, likely thanks to AMD's upcoming Zen 2 CPUs.

Meanwhile, Nvidia suffered extreme losses in Q4 gaming revenue (despite having a solid Q3) and launched its new Turing GPUs. Nvidia is also predicting a poor Q1 like AMD, but with an even sharper decline in revenue. That's also likely due to excess inventory, which seems to have impacted Nvidia much harder than AMD. AMD might be somewhat protected from the volatility because it manufactures both GPUs and CPUs, granting it the ability to fall back to one market when the other fizzles.

For consumers, however, this is all very good news. Most people shopping for new PC parts have probably noticed how low prices are for last-gen GPUs, especially in the mid-range. You can buy GTX 1060s and RX 580s comfortably within the low-$200 range, or even cheaper sometimes, and RX 570s are going for the mid-$100s during seemingly regular sales.

Although cards such as the GTX 1080 and 1080Ti are in short supply and thus command high prices, cards like the GTX 1070 and 1060, and the RX Vega 56, 580, and 570, are still in high supply and are consequently much cheaper than they were during the cryptomining craze. AMD's GPUs even come with free games, further increasing the value. Now is a great time to buy a last-gen GPU, as GPU prices could slowly increase as inventory is shuffled out this year.

Sounds like a great time to upgrade or build a new entry level gaming PC. I bought a 1060 Ti last year for 100 USD more than the low 200 ranges shown above. It's been performing well on my desktop providing enough power to play current cutting edge games on low settings and it let's me use Shadow and stream at the same time, so it's not bad if you have a tight budget.
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