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[PC] Ymir

Unread postby icycalm » 11 Apr 2018 19:46

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I've been gushing about this on Discord.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/37836 ... id=6528969

Steam wrote:Ymir is a 4X multiplayer strategy game combined with a city builder where each player develops a civilization of pigmen starting at the stone age.


culture.vg wrote:4X MMO version of Age of Empires with up to 100-player persistent world. If they could just replace the stupid pigs with actual character design it could well end up being GOTY material.


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From Discord:

I wrote:Age of Empires made into 4X lol
And MMO! Up to 100 player persistent world (edited)

If they could just replace the stupid pigs with actual character design...
2 game modes:
* Real-time mode : a 'classical' mode to be played alone or with a few friends, meant to be played with the permanent presence of all players and to be stopped/continued over several playing sessions.
* Permanent mode : a more "MMO" mode where the game server is to be left running 24/7 at all times even when players are offline and where actions take much more time than in the real-time mode. Meant to be played with the maximum number of players on a day-to-day basis, with games lasting several weeks.
This game sounds pretty damn incredible
* Complex socio-economic simulator for a challenging city-building experience on its own.
* Fully procedural worlds where each region is random and unique.
* 7 biomes, each one with its own specific resources to encourage player-trading.
* Advanced diplomatic and economic tools to setup treaties ( right of passage, taxes, payments, trade agreements... ) and trade routes between players.
* With the terrain tools, modify the terrain heights to take maximum advantage of natural defenses like cliffs and hill tops.
* A Strategic-tool allows players to design their local defensive strategy in each one of their cities in case of attack: creating defensive zones, setting troops initial deployment positions and setting their behavior in battle.
* Battles are not instantaneous and belligerents can send reinforcements while a battle is still in progress.
* Battles can include unlimited 'teams' at the same time, each one fighting according to its allegiances.
* Battle troops during a battle are all AI controlled ( so that battles can happen independently of the player's presence ).
Gotta put it in the Most Wanted list
This has a lot of the features I would like to see in PA2

I made a thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/378360/d ... 664625382/
Will probably get deleted
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Unread postby icycalm » 11 Apr 2018 20:47

I went nuts in the thread.

I wrote:Feces-shaped villagers would also be "unique". Uniqueness is not an argument. People play these games because they want to feel like rulers, like kings and emperors. They want to feel like Alexander and Caesar, not like a f*cking ruler of pigs. I am a videogame critic and theorist of 13 years, and the designer of this game needs to listen to a sane voice on the matter. If you spend too much time in a room, like programmers tend to do, you lose touch of reality, and start seeing pigs or whatever everywhere, and then you think that everyone else dreams of pigs too, and wants to see movies about pigs and play games about pigs. The reality is that with proper character design this game would sell AT LEAST DOUBLE, if not 10x what it will sell with the stupid pigs, so if the designer wants to make money to continue development, and if the players want a large community to play with, just replace the damn pig sprites with an image OF JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE as soon as goddamn possible!
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Unread postby icycalm » 11 Aug 2018 16:57

Word on the street is that this is the best city-builder ever. It is already playable outside of Steam by camping this page on the first of each month and trying to nab one of the few dozen keys that typically sell out in less than an hour: https://ymir-online.com/product/ymir-cl ... steam-key/

I would bite if I could save my Steam hours. As things stand, I will wait for the Steam release unless someone else jumps in first and hypes me up to the required levels for an impulse purchase.


EDIT: Oh wait, the key is playable through Steam. I will be camping on September 1. Join me if you will!
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Unread postby madman » 13 Jan 2019 23:34

This finally has a release date, no camping required: March 15, same as The Division 2.

Available on March 15th in Early access!
https://steamcommunity.com/games/378360 ... 1990440472

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Thibaud Michaud wrote:Pricing will vary depending your region. It will be available for 30€ in the EU.


And a cool update has just been released.

The subjugating update
https://steamcommunity.com/games/378360 ... 2000022078

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Thibaud Michaud wrote:This new update brings changes to war and territorial statuses!

Every time a territory is invaded during a war, it now gets a special new territorial status of "occupied territory", which costs no state power and no maintenance, but provides no income and no control: the territory is basically in limbo for the duration of the war. It also no longer triggers a resistance penalty: instead, occupied territories generate resistance with time.
If the invader wishes to claim the territory, he can still do so by changing that status to something else, but by doing so the immediate resistance penalty will apply as before.
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Unread postby icycalm » 22 Feb 2019 21:29

Finally, a proper trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alj5q7C4lBM

It's basically Age of Empires MMO. The "4X" and "technology" claims are quite overblown, because the theme precludes significant tech evolution. And anyway, AoE already had tech. So maybe here it'll be a little more complex, but still a far cry from what a proper 4X games calls technology.

100-player games are nothing to sniff at though, not to mention the massive maps, etc.

I am looking forward to this a lot and hope I'll find some people to play it with me. We'll need a decent size team to have some hope of winning 100-player games. Which reminds me: you can think of this as Age of Empires: Battle Royale lol.
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Unread postby JC Denton » 15 Mar 2019 13:35

Release delayed: Steam has denied the game's release
https://steamcommunity.com/games/378360 ... 5374794574

Ronchiporc wrote:But i have to say you'd be surprise how even as a dev, we have pretty much zero human contact with anyone from Valve either. Its more of a self running website where all you're left with is some documentation and a forum of other devs trying to figure out things themselves too and sharing experiences. You can't get any help, and the whole steamworks interface is very confusing, sometimes even faulty/buggy, which doesnt help to make things intuitive.
Is there still humans working at Valve ? nobody knows. I personnally suspect Gabe merged with the mainframe "lawnmower man" style years ago, and left us all to despair with this platform.


lol

He has a good sense of humor, at least, which bodes well for the game.
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Unread postby icycalm » 15 Mar 2019 13:50

I posted this comment:

CULT|icycalm wrote:Hang in there dude. You have a quality game, and it will find its audience no matter when you release it. My site will do all it can to help.


Also note that, as of this writing, 348 keys are available to buy on the official site, so no one's stopping people from jumping into the game: https://ymir-online.com/product/ymir-cl ... steam-key/

Tons of people already have the game via this method anyways and are playing right now. Still sucks though, because of this:

Ronchiporc wrote:So here i am now, on release day, unable to release my game after about 8 years of work.
Big AAA city builders games are about to be released in a week or so. I had the perfect release day planned, and now it's ruined.

But even though it's partly my fault, i can't keep but feeling bitter at the lack of understanding from Valve's side. On one hand because they didnt seem to care that denying me this for some absurd reason ruined such an important day for me, and on the other because i can't help but feel infuriated that somehow my game was under greater scrutiny and had to meet high quality standards( resulting in a denial), when in the meantime the cheapest porn games and asset flippers seem to be released on a daily basis without the slightest oversight on steam. Like...really Steam? MY game gets its release denied but those are fine?


Having said all that, I posted the following follow-up content:

CULT|icycalm wrote:Having said all that, I also have to say that the kind of person who posts on his official Steam page in that childish wall-of-text-with-no-proper-paragraphs-or-formatting or even punctuation is bound to be a scatterbrain who's bound to run into these sorts of troubles... So maybe you should considering working on that, dude.
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