Cult Capital Fleet

[icycalm]

Hard to believe a mere couple of weeks ago I thought of the M as a distant prospect, something to aim for in the years ahead, and now we have two. And we'd have had three if shubn hadn't fallen on hard times and wasn't poor now. But at least he got the poor man's Idris, the Idris-Poor. Not as good as the Idris-Money, but it's better than nothing. And don't worry shubn, you know we don't like poors but we've been playing together since children so we won't kick you out just yet. Hang in there buddy, life is tough.

So when life gives you lemons you make lemonade. By which I mean there might be an upside to shubn's unfortunate situation if we just but look for it. To give an example of what I mean, these days I have to take a lot of public transport in Barcelona and I end up going up and down huge escalators in the metro and the airport. At the same time I've been wanting to add cardio to my workouts for months now but just haven't had the time for it. So what occurred to me is to simply forego the escalators and just take the stairs. That alone is a decent cardio workout. And then to make it tougher later I just sprint up. Which also turns the 20 kg pack I carry all day into a fitness instrument. And then to progress further I can just take the escalator down and run up again every single staircase as many times as I want. So I end up basically feeling buff wherever I arrive at any destination all day long. And all this without adding anything to my weekly schedule. It's really kind of genius and it ONLY works for poors because a normal person would just drive and wouldn't go anywhere near an escalator.

So how does this apply to shubn's unfortunate situation that we're trying to mitigate? Well first of all the P has a rear turret that the M lacks. So the P can bring up the rear of our convoys and armadas. And then the P has more cargo space. The Idris is the safest way to carry cargo in the game currently, and if you want to carry more than the M can, you need a P. So first off we can load the P rearguard with supplies for the armada (and with support vehicles like medical etc.?), and also if we're operating an Idris like a logistical platform for mining or hauling for example, we should use the P for its larger cargo capacity. So I want to see the P used for these purposes over the M whenever possible and we can say in Cult Lore that shubn's Noble House chose to purchase it for this reason, because they are doing more contractor work than the other two houses. And btw I think CIG expects to sell double Idrises to the biggest whales precisely for this reason: Adjudicator has already implied above that he wants to buy also a P at some point, which I applaud.

So now our capital fleet looks like this:

3x Idris (1xP, 2xM)
4x Polaris
3x Pioneer
2x 890 Jump

Super happy also for the second 890J, and do the same as Adjudicator, ysignal, and buy the Meridian paint and park it at Ruin or wherever recoil tells you. He should have his cap ship available often now, and even two of them at the same time sometimes if he wants. Excellent stuff.

We have a truly formidable cap fleet now, and it should motivate us to recruit more players so we can someday fly all of them at the same time. Talk to your friends and acquaintances and try to get them to join us. Cult Friends play for free, remember (normal games, not Battlegrounds ofc). And of course keep trying to recruit in-game.

What lies ahead for cap ship releases and acquisitions? First the Pioneer will come probably early next year, and we are all good on that front. The next one isn't even in production yet so we shouldn't expect anything for a couple of years. Unless... the Javelin releases with Squadron 42. You see they've already given tours of the Javelin during past Invictuses—not the entire ship, just parts of it, and moreover players have been able to steal it and fly it before (I think I even posted a video of this somewhere). So if it's in the campaign, it could drop simultaneously with the game's release sometime next year. Now if this happens we have a pretty cool option to secure one without F5 Wars: we can melt a Praetorian Pack and grab an Aegis Complete Pack which costs 2/3rds of the price but includes a Javelin. This way we get one instantly the moment the Javelin's release is announced. Though we lose a Pioneer with land claim, so it's not a perfect deal, but if there's no other way to get a Javelin at launch, I would advise on doing it. Otherwise it's $2,700 cash which will probably get near $3.5k at release so if anyone is thinking of cashbuying it you'll probably get 2-3 chances at least before Squadron drops, so plan ahead. And remember: it's the Cult Supreme Commander's flagship, so if you want to command an entire solar system when you grow up, you need one.

Anything other than a Javelin on the horizon? I think the Kraken (and Kraken Privateer) is the other possibility because they've said that they plan to use the Ironclad assets for it, and the Ironclad is coming this year. So we're looking at two years minimum for the Kraken. If the Javelin doesn't drop with Squadron, then the Kraken will be the next cap warship to drop. Plenty of time for us to grab one until then, though note that when it goes into production its F5 Wars will suddenly become much harder to win. That said, this is a much cheaper ship than the Javelin at just $1,400 for the base and $1,700 for the Privateer, so it should be easier to grab with cash. Though note the base is for the Pirate Emperor—me—while the Privateer is for the Contractor Supreme Commander, so the latter is what you want (that said we could always use multiples of everything so go ahead and grab base Krakens too if you want so you can fly me around in them, you just won't be able to command them).

In sum, I am really proud of us and what we have accomplished here. Everyone now, both inside the game and outside, will know we are richer than them, and therefore better people. And that's the whole point of the metaverse genre after all.

Now let's get into the game and fly our new ships and show everyone how rich we are!

[icycalm]

Kraken concept

So this happened in June: the Krakens are finally being made! Here's all we know about the progress so far:

PU Monthly Report June 2025
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/c ... -June-2025

Lastly for Ships, the Drake Kraken entered pre-production, with the team identifying areas from the original concept that need further attention to bring to modern standards. Full production will begin later this year.

PU Monthly Report July 2025
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/c ... -July-2025

Finally, the Drake Kraken had further pre-production work done. This identified more areas where kits from the Ironclad will help speed up production, as well as some more challenging internal areas that require updated concept time, such as engineering and the recently added small medical facility.

PU Monthly Report August 2025
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/c ... ugust-2025

The Drake Kraken’s pre-production phase continued too.

Kraken under fire

I don't see it arriving inside 1.5 years, and it could easily take 2, so it's not at all urgent for us to get one. That said, they might speed up the process by putting more people on it once the Ironclad is out, and it's using its kit too, so that might further speed things up. So we could conceivably see it in a bit less than a year and a half. And between now and then there will probably be 5-6 chances to buy one at most. Apparently it has always sold out during sales, but now that it's being made it should be worse. So the sooner we start thinking about it, the better. Keep also in mind that the price will rise dramatically on release, as did the Idris's, which climbed by $200-400 (cash/credit). Currently the prices are:

Kraken: $1,650 credit/$1,400 cash
Kraken Privateer: $2,000 credit/$1,700 cash

I expect to see the Kraken reach at least $1,700 cash and the Privateer at least $2,000 after release, so securing both earlier could save us nearly a grand.

The Privateer by the way features commerce stores for illicit goods, probably in exchange for weaker combat stats. I've given both to the Pirate Supreme Commander and he can switch between them based on his needs, just like I've given both Idrises to the regular Commander and Pirate Commander. Regarding the Contractors, they will have the Banu Merchantman, which is a flying mall, so no need for them to get the Privateer as I had originally planned.


Kraken Privateer landed

That said, the Spec is fluid, so don't make purchase decisions based on it. Buy what you want to have in your web hangar. And if you buy something, I guarantee that you will get to use it. If you're thinking, "But I am not a Pirate SupCom", trust me, you will be if you want to: the verse will be huge. Plus recoil will always need you to fly him around in any Krakens you buy, right out the gate.

So if you have any Kraken-purchase plans, let us know here especially so we can coordinate if possible to get both versions. That said, if there are two people who want the same version, just go for it and don't worry about it. These things cost a lot of money and the important thing is for the buyer to grab the one he will enjoy the most.

[shubn]

I'll probably try and get a Kraken this IAE.

There is a Kraken Conversion Kit you can buy if you own a Kraken to turn it into a Kraken Privateer. Supposedly, if you apply the kit, you should be able to melt it and buy the base Kraken back if you change your mind, and so buying the base Kraken is the smarter option, unless you know for sure that the Privateer is the one you want and it's the only one you manage to get during the F5 Wars.

[icycalm]

Fantastic, keep us posted. I'll make a point from now on of posting limited hull sales windows in this thread when they pop up. It's a great motivator.

It's the first Kraken that is the important one. I just don't want it to come out without us having one and feeling left out. Once we have the first, any more are a bonus. And if we can use the conversion kit to keep switching between the variants, it's even better. Though I suspect if it really works this way, they might patch it at some point. I know this is how gear works, but I can't see them allowing it for cap ships.

[icycalm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/co ... nt/nnfd1af

Still waiting for the Polaris to drop in in-game shops!

The devs already said this will NOT be happening. No combat capital ships will ever be available for purchase in the in-game shops. You will only be able to obtain them via Wikelo and crafting.

[icycalm]

IDRIS M?
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/co ... nt/nny6f5a

pay for the praetorian pack, get 2042 referrals or try to snipe a rare giftable one on the grey market.

most reliable way is to have buttload of cash to give cig i guess

So there are giftable Idris-Ms but they're rare. Star Hangar doesn't have any right now, and neither does the Impound, but they do list one as sold out:

Idris M - Original Concept LTI
https://theimpound.com/collections/buy- ... oncept-lti

$4,000 but it's Original Concept which are always more expensive. Not sure if there exist non-OC ones.

Impound has told me that they often have stock that's not listed on their site, and to email them if I want something I don't see listed. So that's something to be tried if anyone wants one. And I guess you can search for more on the SC trades subreddit, but then you have to be very careful about not getting scammed. I suspect that if you asked Impound, they would get one for you from there and then charge something extra, which would be a faster, safer way to do it.

So anyway, I thought I'd post this here as an option because I wasn't aware that giftable Ms existed.

[icycalm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/co ... hters_have

I did note, however, that Idrises with BEAM guns are almost always assholes, but every time one had a railgun, they almost exclusively weren't.

Scientific data that rich people are better people (but don't let shubn hear you).

[icycalm]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spec ... lcomes-you

Will there be quantity stock-limited ships?
Yes! Each stock-limited ship is limited to one per account and will be available in six waves to cover as many global time zones as possible. Please note that depending on your time zone, some waves may occur the next calendar day.

▲ Wave 1 - 16:00 UTC
▲ Wave 2 - 20:00 UTC
▲ Wave 3 - 00:00 UTC
▲ Wave 4 - 04:00 UTC (the following day)
▲ Wave 5 - 08:00 UTC (the following day)
▲ Wave 6 - 12:00 UTC (the following day)

► Starting on Nov 20 (IAE Day 1): RSI Constellation Phoenix
► Starting on Nov 21 (IAE Day 2): Origin 890 Jump
► Starting on Nov 22 (IAE Day 3): Drake Kraken, Drake Kraken Privateer
► Starting on Nov 24 (IAE Day 5): MISC Hull E
► Starting on Nov 26 (IAE Day 7): Consolidated Outland Pioneer
► Starting on Nov 28 (IAE Day 9): Aegis Idris-P, Aegis Javelin

Early waves are tough to get, but the later ones are feasible, especially if 1) You're buying with cash (Warbond), and/or 2) You've added the ship to your cart from an earlier wave. But by wave 4 or 5 you should have at least a few minutes to just show up and grab whatever you want. I've also heard that BETWEEN waves it's sometimes possible to randomly find stock when people's credit card charges get rejected.

We really need a detailed guide to the F5 Wars. I saved some ages ago but still haven't got round to posting them.

Let us know if anyone grabs anything.

[icycalm]

Updated Praetorian Pack includes a Javelin...
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/co ... _a_javelin

Interesting changes. Lost all of the extra items but gained a few big ship/hard to obtain ships (Javelin, Scythe, Kraken Privateer, Hull-E).

We need to discuss this! We have two of these packs!

So if I understand it correctly, you lose all the knick-knacks in exchange for a bunch of capitals??? That sounds like the deal of the century! I mean I love knick-knacks, but if we can get a couple Krakens in exchange, plus Javelins that might be coming out next year with Squadron, it's a no-brainer. The only "knick-knack" that might have functional value is the Pioneer land claim. Is that still in the new pack? If so I would advise Adjudicator and ysignal to melt the old and buy the new asap. If not, they should probably do it anyway, because:

Does this change current pack holders?

Can you melt and rebuy if it's different?

No the pack you buy stays like that forever. Yes you can melt and rebuy.

So, ASSUMING THIS GUY IS RIGHT (could be wrong), you can switch between the packs forever? Or just one time?

Give me your thoughts if you have any. Two Kraken Privateers for Adjudicator and ysignal plus one base Kraken if shubn buys one would be an awesome boon for us, not to speak of two Javelins on order. But it seems there's no hurry because the new pack isn't going anywhere, unless they change it further soon, and for the worse (i.e. removing something cool), which doesn't seem like something they would do.

Some comments from the thread to get us thinking:

If I had managed to amass $15,000 in store credit on standalone ships, I would get this. The inclusion of an Idris-M and LTI Pioneer are big standouts. I like that they've replaced the large number of low-value "filler ships" with large and capital ships. There are just enough small ships to facilitate a few solo options while not being a bunch of variants that would never get used. Possibly a good deal for someone who has bought their store credit at a discount from "refunders" on the grey market.

The small ships you lose mean nothing to us. We have loads, and we can easily get more in-game. We can't get capitals in-game (or if we can, from e.g. Wikelo, the grind is insane, and they can get wiped).

It's super cool bc you are getting two idrises (idris-p for javelin), so finally we can play with a friend.

lol

They also removed the land claim lol.

Not cool but prolly not a deal-breaker. I can't imagine having a free land claim can be a bigger boon than a Kraken and a Javelin! Besides, you can still buy these claims from the grey market for a decent price, as long as you buy before the Pioneer arrives (at which point their price will explode). E.g.:

UEE Land Claim License Estate Parcel (8x8 km) $899.99
https://star-hangar.com/37133-1686630146.html



More info on land claims here: https://starcitizen.tools/Land_Claim

SIZES

There are currently two area sizes that can be claimed with a claim beacon:

• Plot: an area of 16 km² (4 x 4 km, 1600 hectares), claimed with a Geotack
  
• Estate: an area of 64 km² (8 x 8 km, 6400 hectares, 4 plots), claimed with Geotack-X

And btw the new pack includes an F8C so you could melt it if you have it and use the credit to buy some of the smaller ships that got removed.

[shubn]

I bought a Kraken.

[icycalm]

Terrific, so here's our cap fleet now:

3x Idris (2xM, 1xP)
1x Kraken
4x Polaris
3x Pioneer
2x 890 Jump

And the updated Praetorian Pack means we could have up to 2x Kraken Privateers and 2x Javelins at a moment's notice with no need for F5 Wars.

As good of a cap fleet as anyone could hope for.